Progressive Anti-Catholic Bingo


Anti-Catholic Bingo card

I don’t mind criticism of the Church. I spend a fair amount of time criticizing it myself. However, I hate it when ex, lapsed, or non-Catholics try to convince me that the faith is evil by using the arguments on this bingo card. This is to prove to you that yes, I have heard this all before. Thanks.:)

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17 comments

  1. JeninCanada · August 12, 2011

    I’m getting pretty tired of non-religious folks being all “Anyone with faith is stupid! Religion is ruining the world! Grownups shouldn’t believe in fairy tales!” etc etc Blanket statements about ANY group is NOT OK. Thinking you’re intellectually superior doesn’t actually make it so.

  2. joannadeadwinter · August 13, 2011

    I appreciate your comment and I was hoping people from other faiths would comment. Organized religions like mine tend to get the brunt of these judgments but anyone who espouses belief or defends it will be hit with accusations.

    Oppression was a reality in both religious and secular society. It is a reality today. As long as people choose to suck, people from various religions will choose to suck. Atheists and agnostics can make that same choice. We can also work together to achieve a world where oppression is a distant memory.

    Much more of interest to me than comments about how silly my bishop looks in his cappa magna.:)

    • SunflowerP · August 13, 2011

      “Organized religions like mine tend to get the brunt of these judgments but anyone who espouses belief or defends it will be hit with accusations.”

      Yep.

      I don’t know that it’s about being organized per se as being predominant – it’s the religious paradigm people are familiar with (or think they’re familiar with), so they assume it’s a template for How Religion Is Done, and is the form towards which they direct their anti-religious arguments.

      So (oversimplifications and misconstructions of) monotheism or Christianity or Catholicism are the direct target; non-Christian monotheists and non-monotheists are effectively erased.

      Sunflower

      • Johnny from Edinburgh · August 13, 2011

        Thank you. I get so tired of having fundamentalist atheists telling me things about my religion (I’m a hard polytheist) that only apply to the big three monotheistic religions…

  3. KellyK · August 13, 2011

    Oppression was a reality in both religious and secular society. It is a reality today. As long as people choose to suck, people from various religions will choose to suck. Atheists and agnostics can make that same choice.

    I think this is a hugely important point. Religion is oppressive when it has political power (either directly through a theocracy or indirectly), not because of something inherently bad about religion. It’s a power thing, not a belief thing. There aren’t a whole lot of purely secular societies, so there are far fewer examples of anti-religious oppression (though French Muslim girls not being allowed to wear their head coverings to school comes to mind).

  4. Des (@Desnessa) · August 13, 2011

    Thank you! I think ever since returning to the church last year I’d be able to fill up this card twice! It really shocks me how so called progressive and inclusive people can be so downright rude and hateful of anyone with religious beliefs. I think the one that angers me the most is when they call my beliefs a fairy tale. grrr.

    • joannadeadwinter · August 13, 2011

      I’m glad you could relate to this. I’m surprised I haven’t been able to find any good anti-Catholic bingos, so I took it upon myself to make one.:)

      Maybe you should share your story sometime about the Church and why you came back. Anyway, welcome back and don’t let the naysayers bring you down.:)

      Atheists have said many wise things, and I know they don’t like being demeaned as immoral. Well, neither do we.

  5. fattery · August 13, 2011

    I am an atheist, and I thought I’d comment just to give a (hopefully) non-rude perspective on the issue. When I was a kid, I thought God was like the Tooth Fairy–something adults didn’t believe in but just kept going for kids. When, as a teenager, I realized that not everyone felt the way I did, I started to think I was just smarter than everyone else. Now, I don’t think that. I can’t even be sure that I wouldn’t believe in God if I’d had an entirely different upbringing. Growing up, my family was a little religious, but we didn’t say prayers every night or talk about God (in fact, I didn’t know what my parents believed until I asked them when I was in college–turns out my dad believes in God and my mom doesn’t). While I do think that religion causes a lot of problems, conflicts arise out of all kinds of social interactions, not JUST religion, and if there were no religion something else would take over as a significant conflict instigator. I also think that religion brings a lot of happiness, comfort, meaning, and connectivity to a lot people’s lives, so I see its value.

    • joannadeadwinter · August 13, 2011

      This post was not rude whatsoever and I’m happy that atheists are weighing in on this. Like you said, power is a human temptation and a sin, to use religious terminology, that anyone can fall prey to. Eliminate religion and some other regime will take its place.

      For some, religion can inhibit problematic desires but for others, it just aggravates them (look at some of the Catholic bishops in the US). What it comes down to us YOUR convictions and the courage to live them out, regardless of faith or lack thereof.

      Thanks again for commenting. Atheists are always welcome on my site.:)

  6. Johnny from Edinburgh · August 13, 2011

    People are people; some participants in every religion are going to be rotten apples, and some are going to be saints, and most are going to be somewhere in the middle.

    My idea is that it isn’t the conduct of the most visible followers of a religion that determines its validity, but rather the teachings it espouses. If you look at the actual teachings of Jesus (as opposed to the human intepretations of, and additions to, those teachings), they’re pretty darned good stuff. If not all Christians follow those teachings, well, human nature; we’re inherently imperfect.

    Just my tuppence.

    • joannadeadwinter · August 13, 2011

      Your tuppence is worth a million to me.:)

      The Church has a somewhat different view of things, i.e. that the Church established the papacy and that it has the power to “let loose” in Heaven what he will. However, this power has no meaning without grounding in Sacred Scripture and a sense of justice. Many of our (RC) bishops are lacking in this area. Dare I say it, some of them are espousing heresy when they say that pastoral care (a very Jesus-centric virtue) has no value in the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.

  7. rubyfruit · August 13, 2011

    I am an agnostic ex-Pentecostal (Ex-Assemblies of God, to be precise). While I have a deep and personal loathing of, well, everything my former religion taught, I have no ill will toward religious people themselves. The only ones I truly dislike are those who use the faith of others as a tool to wield power over them. And even then, I don’t dislike their religion (Pentecostalism aside), but the fact that they use the faith of others as a tool to rule them and a weapon to harm them.

    But being agnostic, both believers and nonbelievers have problems with my existence anyway. Maybe my opinion doesn’t matter in the long run….

    • JoannaDW · August 14, 2011

      I have long been a critic of those who use religion for exploitative political ends, so you will find no argument here. It is helpful to remember, assuming that you (general you) are a believer, that when God speaks to people, He is not loud. He does not send lightning, earthquakes, etc. He speaks softly, as He did by the burning bush and religious people need to act in the same vein.

  8. Dee · August 14, 2011

    I’m an atheist, and in general, I have no problem with religious people or with religion in general. What I do have a problem with is religious people trying to get their views (on reproductive freedom, in particular) enshrined in law. The most ethical religious people I’ve known have been able to first, quietly and faithfully live by their beliefs and second, not ask everyone else to conform to them. Unfortunately, many religious people who are active in public life in the US can’t seem to do either one of those things. They often violate their own beliefs while trying to force everyone else to follow them.

  9. pharaoh · September 29, 2011

    I know I am kind of late to the game. Doing research for a class and just happened upon this. But I thought the card was funny in an over the top sort of way.
    What I really wanted to say though, is religions are the new race cards. When people see something different, they want to eradicate it, I think the best practice is to open understanding of religions instead of talk about them being brushed to the dark corners along with talk about sex and other uncomfortable things. Just take a look at the middle east, half the world hates all Islamic people now just because of some radicals. The extreme is Never the representative of the whole. The same can be said about anything, but it seems most need to be reminded about it with religion.
    Just my two cents, back to researching now.

    • joannadeadwinter · September 29, 2011

      Thanks for visiting and come again some time if you please.:)

      Like you said, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. You don’t hear about moderate Catholics, moderate Muslims, etc. Just the radicals, because they bring ratings.

  10. joannadeadwinter · October 26, 2012

    Reblogged this on The Catholic Inferno.

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